Richard Sexton
27 December 2019 ·
Rusia now runs alt root servers, weans itself away from ICANN servers. Invites the world to play.
A friend in Russia said this:
"the Russian root servers, 3 of them for now ( Moscow, Ekaterinburg and Saint Petersburg), are managed by a Russian replica of ICANN. It's called RIPN.
In reality, it's about how much trust anyone places in ICANN and those with back door to 13 root servers vs Russian replica of ICANN and trust one places in Russians. The main thing is Russians can be assured they can't be cut off completely."
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Theo Develegas No updates in 10 years: http://www.ripn.net/press/en/
Press releases
RIPN.NET

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Richard Sexton
Author Maybe they're busy doing actual work. There was a live test on Monday. Thanks for the pointer. 2
Theo Develegas Apparently they had an "oops" moment last year: https://securitytrails.com/blog/russian-tlds SecurityTrails | Wrong Bind Configuration Exposes the Complete List of Russian TLD's to the Internet
SECURITYTRAILS.COM

Rubens Kuhl The hard part is making in-addr.arpa and ip6.arpa entries. 1
Richard Sexton
Author Nobody cares about V6 so there's half the problem solved. One step at a time. 2
Theo Develegas This group needs to move from Pyongyang, Korea to Yekaterinburg, Mother Russia.
Andrei Kolesnikov Alt servers being there for many years. 3

Richard Sexton
Author What are their addresses?
Andrei Kolesnikov Richard Sexton KGB secret
Carlos Marcelo Martinez-Cagnazzo What is that you like so much about this Richard ?

Richard Sexton
Author Do you know the Geoff Goodfellow story about the SRI-NIC, Carlos?
Carlos Marcelo Martinez-Cagnazzo
Richard Sexton no idea
Lutz Donnerhacke What's the problem? Running a Slave ist pretty easy and DNSSEC ensures no compromise of answers. 1
George T Bundy So how’s that “One World, One Internet” working out for you now? 1
Dušan Stojičević Russia is hot in the middle of the winter. Here are the prices of IPv4 addresses on the Russian black market - https://belsat.eu/en/news/runet-founder-under-house-arrest/
Runet founder under house arrest
BELSAT.EU
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Allison Nixon Most of the abuse is coming from Russia. Do they think anyone will buy the notion that Russian run servers will be abuse resistent? Anyone foolish to believe that should leave the regular internet and go join the RUnet, post haste 1
Andrei Kolesnikov Allison Nixon we suffer unbearable damn it
Vartan Khachaturov Allison Nixon any proofs for the "most of the abuse"?
Allison Nixon *waves hands generally at literally everything coming out of the Russian internet directed at america*
Barry Shein The claim seems vague, most of the abuse comes from hosts geographically in Russia? Or do you know this is being done by citizens of Russia?
I've long had a theory that a lot of abuse arises from countries which don't normally use the Latin-1 (whateve… See more 1
Johna Till Johnson Barry Shein That theory makes sense to me. And explains the Russian paranoia (which isn't, under your theory, exactly paranoia--even paranoids have enemies)
Allison Nixon Your theory is ridiculous I'm not going to waste my time educating yall on the state of online cybercrime and how the Russian gov works hand in hand with carders and spammers lmao. 1
Barry Shein There appears to be some disagreement on this point. One would need numbers to sort this out, not mere proof of existence. I suspect there's truth in both characterizations, yes there appear to be Russian spam gangs and yes spammers et al world wide fish in non-ASCII waters for botnet and other source candidates. These observations are hardly mutually exclusive.
Harald Tveit Alvestrand As long as they serve the same root zone, these servers are Hyper-Local instances, and part of a trend that ICANN is encouraging. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7706 is the localhost-only version.
TOOLS.IETF.ORG

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Richard Sexton
Author "as long as" being the key phrase of course. As long as Russia buys into the corrupt Clinton era ICANN model things won't change.
I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.
Rubens Kuhl As long as Russia trade interests are best served by joining the global Internet root, they will stay.
Dušan Stojičević "As long as"? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50902496
Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet
BBC.COM
Barry Shein I unplugged my internet connection and it worked *exactly* as I expected. I'll call that a successful test.
Dušan Stojičević Barry Shein sure, sure... The same BA was for US elections, and we are where we are... 😉
Nadira AL-Araj RIP N