27 December 2019 ·
Rusia now runs alt root servers, weans itself away from ICANN servers. Invites the world to play.
A friend in Russia said this:
"the Russian root servers, 3 of them for now ( Moscow, Ekaterinburg and Saint Petersburg), are managed by a Russian replica of ICANN. It's called RIPN.
In reality, it's about how much trust anyone places in ICANN and those with back door to 13 root servers vs Russian replica of ICANN and trust one places in Russians. The main thing is Russians can be assured they can't be cut off completely."
13You and 12 others
No updates in 10 years: http://www.ripn.net/press/en/
Maybe they're busy doing actual work. There was a live test on Monday. Thanks for the pointer.
Apparently they had an "oops" moment last year: https://securitytrails.com/blog/russian-tlds
SecurityTrails | Wrong Bind Configuration Exposes the Complete List of Russian TLD's to the Internet
The hard part is making in-addr.arpa and ip6.arpa entries.
Nobody cares about V6 so there's half the problem solved.
One step at a time.
This group needs to move from Pyongyang, Korea to Yekaterinburg, Mother Russia.
Alt servers being there for many years.
What are their addresses?
Richard Sexton KGB secret
Carlos Marcelo Martinez-Cagnazzo
What is that you like so much about this Richard ?
Do you know the Geoff Goodfellow story about the SRI-NIC, Carlos?
Carlos Marcelo Martinez-Cagnazzo
Richard Sexton no idea
What's the problem? Running a Slave ist pretty easy and DNSSEC ensures no compromise of answers.
George T Bundy
So how’s that “One World, One Internet” working out for you now?
Russia is hot in the middle of the winter. Here are the prices of IPv4 addresses on the Russian black market - https://belsat.eu/en/news/runet-founder-under-house-arrest/
Runet founder under house arrest
Most of the abuse is coming from Russia. Do they think anyone will buy the notion that Russian run servers will be abuse resistent? Anyone foolish to believe that should leave the regular internet and go join the RUnet, post haste
Allison Nixon we suffer unbearable damn it
Allison Nixon any proofs for the "most of the abuse"?
*waves hands generally at literally everything coming out of the Russian internet directed at america*
The claim seems vague, most of the abuse comes from hosts geographically in Russia? Or do you know this is being done by citizens of Russia?
I've long had a theory that a lot of abuse arises from countries which don't normally use the Latin-1 (whateve… See more
Johna Till Johnson
Barry Shein That theory makes sense to me. And explains the Russian paranoia (which isn't, under your theory, exactly paranoia--even paranoids have enemies)
Your theory is ridiculous
I'm not going to waste my time educating yall on the state of online cybercrime and how the Russian gov works hand in hand with carders and spammers lmao.
There appears to be some disagreement on this point.
One would need numbers to sort this out, not mere proof of existence.
I suspect there's truth in both characterizations, yes there appear to be Russian spam gangs and yes spammers et al world wide fish in non-ASCII waters for botnet and other source candidates.
These observations are hardly mutually exclusive.
Harald Tveit Alvestrand
As long as they serve the same root zone, these servers are Hyper-Local instances, and part of a trend that ICANN is encouraging. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7706 is the localhost-only version.
"as long as" being the key phrase of course. As long as Russia buys into the corrupt Clinton era ICANN model things won't change.
I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.
As long as Russia trade interests are best served by joining the global Internet root, they will stay.
"As long as"? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50902496
Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet
I unplugged my internet connection and it worked *exactly* as I expected. I'll call that a successful test.
Barry Shein sure, sure... The same BA was for US elections, and we are where we are... 😉